gasser
12/8/2017 7:00:06 PMThe enemy is not fisherman. The enemy is not us.
We pay a lot for licenses and there is not the transparency at the state level as far as what we were promised to support saltwater fishing. Bob Oke put a surcharge on our licenses, and the money went where??????
Trout fishing is well supported, but Puget Sound is a mess. I used to go out in the winter and never failed to come back with winter blackmouth. And where is that fishery now?
Honesty, integrity and not politics. Management is not just cutting quota and managing numbers. management should be enhancement so there is plenty for all, and people don't feel the need to hide information.
But do we really have enhancement as a goal, or just setting quotas? I feel the later, so why the continued license fee increases?
We pay a lot for licenses and there is not the transparency at the state level as far as what we were promised to support saltwater fishing. Bob Oke put a surcharge on our licenses, and the money went where??????
Trout fishing is well supported, but Puget Sound is a mess. I used to go out in the winter and never failed to come back with winter blackmouth. And where is that fishery now?
Honesty, integrity and not politics. Management is not just cutting quota and managing numbers. management should be enhancement so there is plenty for all, and people don't feel the need to hide information.
But do we really have enhancement as a goal, or just setting quotas? I feel the later, so why the continued license fee increases?
gasser
12/8/2017 7:01:52 PMWe could have such a tremendous fishery if people were commited to enhancement. But at 63, I don't ever see that happening, so i go north, as in canada, and spend my dollars there.
JoshH
12/8/2017 8:56:15 PMVery well written Mike. I whole-heartedly agree that there are certain areas, native stocks, delicate ecosystems and the like that need protecting. Talking about these fisheries in the open can be counter productive to those places. The over-whelming majority of fishing, specifically the west side of Washington state, is hatchery supported. Those rivers and lakes fisheries are bought and paid for by every person in the state. There are 2 truths that I know based on my personal experience of fishing most of my 49 years on this earth... I see fishing pressure as having been reduced over the year. The folks today need to look at photos from the river in the past. I knew Bob Hierman well, and have talked long hours and looked at many pictures from the past with the banks lined elbow to elbow with anglers. The main culprit though in the perceived blowing up of someone's spot, river system, or lake is simply reduced opportunity. I'll use myself as an example. I've primarily been a Skagit River or area 8-2 or 8-2 Fisher. 2 straight years of complete closures have forced me to either stop fishing salmon, or find somewhere else to do it. Living where I do, the ONLY opportunity near me that is open and accessible is 1 river system. Guess where I fished? No report posted on the internet sent me there. A internet report may have helped me with tactics once I was there fishing a system I was unfamiliar with. But, it never sent me there. Opportunity did. I can guaranty there were a lot more there like me as well that wanted to fish, and that was the only system near us open. I don't know how we fix the opportunity issue, but I do know that infighting with other fishermen about whether or not someone blew up their river definitely won't fix the opportunity problem. Booming population with vastly reduced opportunities are what is making your fishing spot get blown up.
Mike Carey
12/10/2017 8:13:24 PMI agree JoshH. Rivers are different from lakes because as you noted in today's decreasing opportunities there are less and less spots. And unlike lakes, very finite prime fishing locations unless you have a boat, and even then it's getting less peaceful to be out there. I too remember seeing a lot more anglers on the rivers. I think we are losing river anglers because of diminishing opportunities.
Lakes on the other hand lend themselves much better to crowds. Even Baker when full of boats for sockeye still offers open water away from everyone else.
Lakes on the other hand lend themselves much better to crowds. Even Baker when full of boats for sockeye still offers open water away from everyone else.
lallen
12/9/2017 9:45:33 AMMike, I just to know where your picture was taken, ha!
Mike Carey
12/10/2017 8:04:02 PMfor everyone else, first picture is Hoodsport (a Combat Fishery for sure!). Second is the lonely boat launch at Kachess Lake just before we went out and had the WHOLE lake to ourselves catching boat limits of beautiful 11-12" kokanee and a chunky bull trout (released).
Anonymous
12/15/2017 11:19:18 AMThanks for acknowledging the negative impact social media has had on our fisheries. Now let's work together with common sense and see if we can get some of these fisheries back that were lost because of it.
Mike Carey
12/15/2017 7:38:23 PMYou apparently need to re-read the article if that is your take on what I wrote.
muddywaters
12/21/2017 11:16:39 AMNice article. Inspires me to open up and share the blessings. "We are all in this together" is a motto that seems like truth for all areas of life, including fishing information. Thank you for what you do.
Gustaferr
12/24/2019 6:50:01 PMGreat article,I wholeheartedly feel that our own state has let us down, the population has only increased by maybe 1-2 million in the past 10 years and somehow it feels like most fisheries have decimated to nothing