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RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:04 am

Gringo Pescador wrote:
scott080379 wrote:Yeah I know wasn't trying to start anything was just wondering. Just seems that they are getting lazy at cutting fins properly.
I have seen a few like that this year too. Don't they run em through a machine to clip em? Thought I read something like that.
I do believe that they do and I would imagine there is a margin for error but you think there would be a quality checker or something along the process.

and if they don't do a quality check through the process I would be more than happy to volunteer some time at some of these places to help out.
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by racfish » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:36 am

Regardless if they are poorly cut or not cut at all. I dont think Id show pictures on the net with 90% of adipose showing. Other peeps may feel bad about pointing this out but In my eyes both pics were showing Native Steel. Dont like it Too bad.Everyone always reads the rules some are just wanting a fish more then others. My neighbor crabs in the San Juans. He brought me 8 dungies. 3 were females. Hes a Lawyer. He knows the rules. Its just that peeps twist rules from time to time . Even I do. Im not claiming perfection on my part.
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by jens » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:36 am

I'll make this clear. My fish that I caught last Sunday was a Hatchery. A few of you guys are ridiculous. I am offended that I'd even be questioned that my fish was a Native. Like I said, if I did catch one, you can be damn sure I wouldn't take it out of the water. Anyways...
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by bionic_one » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:08 pm

racfish wrote:Regardless if they are poorly cut or not cut at all. I dont think Id show pictures on the net with 90% of adipose showing. Other peeps may feel bad about pointing this out but In my eyes both pics were showing Native Steel. Dont like it Too bad.Everyone always reads the rules some are just wanting a fish more then others. My neighbor crabs in the San Juans. He brought me 8 dungies. 3 were females. Hes a Lawyer. He knows the rules. Its just that peeps twist rules from time to time . Even I do. Im not claiming perfection on my part.
Here's a better picture for you. 90%.... go see an eye doctor.

Image

(Edit: Not sure why the link isn't working: Try here http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6 ... =587471530 )

If you think that's an intact adipose fin, you don't know what you are talking about, and have probably never actually seen an intact adipose fin.

(Edit #2 Another fish from the same river last January http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4 ... =587471530 Another nub left from where a fin was cut...)
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:18 pm

This thread has provided me consistent laughter all winter long! [lol] [lol]
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by Big D » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:20 pm

All right guys, lets settle down. The pick posted by bionic_one was taken from the web.
bionic_one wrote:See how big an intact fin actually is? (I don't know who this is in the picture, just googled 'steelhead adipose')
We don't even know if it was a Washington Steelhead... My bet is it’s not.
Sorry if there's hurt feelings. We all know the rules here in Washington and especially here on WL.com and none of us would ever make that kind of mistake.
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by G-Man » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:20 pm

Jens, this seems like a misunderstanding that maybe getting more heated than need be. I didn't read anything into the question that suggested you didn't know better. Honestly, it just sounded like Scott was curious. Maybe he didn't recognize the bank and was trolling for a hint to the river you were fishing?

Racfish, I'm sure you are aware that there are a few rivers on the OP where you can keep a nate if you are so inclined. So even if someone posted a pic like that of an unmarked fish, it may be totally withing the regs to do so. I think it's great he did post the pic just so folks who may not know the ins and the outs of hatchery fish marking can get a bit more info on the subject.

Also, just a FYI to all readers, some hatcheries don't clip the adipose fin on a steelhead at all, they clip one of the ventral fins. This is covered in the regs under differentiating hatchery from wild steelhead I'm sure a few of you remember the days when they used to clip the dorsal fin so that when you stood it up it was rectangular instead of rhombus shaped.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by bionic_one » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:26 pm

Here are a few pictures of NATIVE/WILD legally caught steelhead in WA state, from SteelheadU website:

Link to Steelhead U page
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:38 pm

Who cares, back on to fish porn please.

was a simple question and jens answered it thank you, sorry for bringing up the question and I ment no disrespect from it.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by racfish » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:38 pm

I wasnt accusing anybody of anything. To me in my eyes thats how the fish in questioned looked.Period.
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:53 pm

racfish wrote:I wasnt accusing anybody of anything. To me in my eyes thats how the fish in questioned looked.Period.
That sounds like an accusation. [blink] [lol]
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:38 pm

Image

Not a steelhead but About a 15 inch native bow, lets get this thread back on track!

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by G-Man » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:59 pm

Love the color and markings of resident river rainbows, nice pic.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:18 pm

Nice pick Crank, what kind of camera are you using?

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:23 pm

It's an Olympus Stylus 725 SW. It's pretty cool, waterproof and shockproof.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:40 pm

I am thinking about picking up an Olympus camera that is water proof.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:51 pm

I have the 1030SW and can attest to the coolness. You can carry them in your wader pocket or vest without worry.
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RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:19 pm

Fished the snoqualmie today, stayed away from Tokul for the most part. However I did drop a hotshot in there a few times. I left the eggs at home today in hopes to gain confidence in jigs and spoons. But unfortunatley after lots of walking and fishing not so much as a grab or a bobber down. I heard of 3 fish out of the creek, fishing pressure was pretty light.

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by flinginpooh » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:28 pm

didnt snoqualmie close?
More fish please!

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RE:Winter Steel

Post by cudaman » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:41 pm

yes but it,s open from plumb,s landing boat launch upstream to tokul .
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