SAVE the wildlife

[panfisher]

May I say a few words on this, please.

The purpose of this forum is to allow anyone who wishes to, to participate in the conversations and to start new topics. This is open to anyone who intends on posting reasonable topics and in a polite manner.
It is not appropriate to comment on someones spelling, punctuation or sentence structure.

In my opinion, The One's post on this topic is sincere and polite. It is not correct for we readers to comment on the way the post was presented.

i certainly agree! i'm sure that there are many that are still learning how to speak and write our english language. so for some to point it out may be a form of degradation to all that are trying. i've never had a problem reading posts, some of you have to much time on on this site and need to go fishing:-"

[kevinb]

Thats true...

[Rabbits]

For anyone who is interested... check out the 'website request' forum 'Preservation' thread. I tried to make a similar point.

And I agree completely. The Puget Sound I have noticed is the worst. Sportsmanship, be proud of yours.

[kevinb]

Just to be clear, I wasn't targeting anyone. As a group,we were steering a differant coarse then the thread was intended. I don't want TheOne to feel he/she can't post a thread. We all enjoy fishing...lets talk about fishing.

[Palmer]

Wildlife and fish populations have been increasing I thought.
Many species of fish in the Seattle died out in the early half of the last century but due to clean up, WDFW, and the tribes, many fish have been reintroduced and are either sustaining or being helped by the hatcheries.

Whitetail deer have gone from 2 million to 20 million nation wide in about the last 60 years.

Cougars and bears are increasing in pop in this state.

Condos and high density housing is being developed in downtown areas. Furthermore a landowner is very limited on development of their land in rural King and Peirce counties.

I think this state deserves a big pat on the back even though they aren't perfect, waste alot of money, and have caused alot of the habitat problems they have resolved or need to resolve.

I have also heard of individuals spearhead projects to clean up and restore habitat such as Thornton creek.

The Department of Natural Resources could plant more trees for the four legged animals like they do for the birds such as oak trees, pines, and apple trees. After all if you buy ammunition then a large portion of the tax paid went to fund the DNR.

[panfisher]

people please help our lakes and rivers and creeks and ponds stay clean.everywhere around washington wildlife is dieing out.cause careless people are poluting are watters and forest's.and now wild life is dieing.please help save it.for our kids and family's please take a few hours a day each month and go to a park or a river or a forest or anything that has to do with wildlife and pick some trash up or plant some trees or flowers.and rember to treat everything and everyone as you would want to be treated THANK YOU your fellow fisherman Theone

there have been several simular posts on this subject from the past. thank you for you helping to keep this subject open:thumleft:

[kuttkilla]

[Derrick-k]

Salmon/steelhead runs in the puget sound suck right now when my dad compares it to salmon fishing in the 60's. Although I think its more of an over-harvest problem for salmon/steelhead.

[Palmer]

I know we have problems with habitat conservation but that's due more to overpopulation which contributes to pollution. However, I'm nobody to tell anyone else where to live or how many children to have. I've heard stories from some of the tribal members passed down from their great grandparents. They tell me we have less then 10% of the salmon runs in our rivers as we did 120 years ago. I'd say development and population growth have consequences that we need to deal with without cutting our own throats in the process. It's a difficult task and planting trees around creeks or ponds can help feed wildlife and provide shade for our watersheds. I've been planting a few near the Skykomish River. Its hard to know if that's even legal anymore.

[Bannock11]

One way that might help, the WDFW, the last time I checked, has an ADOPT-A-LAUNCH program. Where a group or individual can adopt a launch site. This could be one way to help keep a small part clean.

[kuttkilla]

[Derrick-k]

I know we have problems with habitat conservation but that's due more to overpopulation which contributes to pollution. However, I'm nobody to tell anyone else where to live or how many children to have. I've heard stories from some of the tribal members passed down from their great grandparents. They tell me we have less then 10% of the salmon runs in our rivers as we did 120 years ago. I'd say development and population growth have consequences that we need to deal with without cutting our own throats in the process. It's a difficult task and planting trees around creeks or ponds can help feed wildlife and provide shade for our watersheds. I've been planting a few near the Skykomish River. Its hard to know if that's even legal anymore.

I don't mean to be pointing fingers but after the BOLT decision my dad said the salmon and steelhead runs in the rivers effected by the decision steadily declined. The green which once had one of the best steelhead runs in the state went down the tubes. The Puyallup river which was the top producer for the state now has almost no native steelhead and salmon. The skokomish river is one of the most commercialy fished rivers in the state when I drove by it this fall I saw the tribe with their nets in Purdy Creek, (a small tributary to the skokomish) and it had nets across it!!!! It is outrageous the sheer number of commercial fishermen its a miracle that we have any salmon and steelhead left at all.

I personally think that any kind of commercial fishing for steelhead (and yes what the tribes do is commercial fishing) is wrong.

I am not saying that the tribes can't sustain a good fishery as many have (Quinault river, Humptullips river) but a lot of the fisheries have declined because some tribes net TOO MUCH! Sometimes nets stay in on the duwammish for 5 days a week!!!!

And its not just the tribes but commercial fishermen in general.

It's illegal to keep a puget sound native king because they are on the endangered species list but commercial fishermen in alaska catch fish from our endangered fish stocks all the time.

[TheOne]

Wildlife and fish populations have been increasing I thought.
Many species of fish in the Seattle died out in the early half of the last century but due to clean up, WDFW, and the tribes, many fish have been reintroduced and are either sustaining or being helped by the hatcheries.

Whitetail deer have gone from 2 million to 20 million nation wide in about the last 60 years.

Cougars and bears are increasing in pop in this state.

Condos and high density housing is being developed in downtown areas. Furthermore a landowner is very limited on development of their land in rural King and Peirce counties.

I think this state deserves a big pat on the back even though they aren't perfect, waste alot of money, and have caused alot of the habitat problems they have resolved or need to resolve.

I have also heard of individuals spearhead projects to clean up and restore habitat such as Thornton creek.

The Department of Natural Resources could plant more trees for the four legged animals like they do for the birds such as oak trees, pines, and apple trees. After all if you buy ammunition then a large portion of the tax paid went to fund the DNR.

wel all just need to do our part.thats all im trying to say.

[kuttkilla]

[kevinb]

Wildlife and fish populations have been increasing I thought.
Many species of fish in the Seattle died out in the early half of the last century but due to clean up, WDFW, and the tribes, many fish have been reintroduced and are either sustaining or being helped by the hatcheries.

Whitetail deer have gone from 2 million to 20 million nation wide in about the last 60 years.

Cougars and bears are increasing in pop in this state.

That's what I thought Palmer. We have a ton of "Save the Wildlife" threads, but in all reality it's in great shape to begin with, overall.

How 'bout save the whales. Is their one of those?:cheers:

[kevinb]

Sorry,I just thought this got buried.

[TheOne]

Wildlife and fish populations have been increasing I thought.
Many species of fish in the Seattle died out in the early half of the last century but due to clean up, WDFW, and the tribes, many fish have been reintroduced and are either sustaining or being helped by the hatcheries.

Whitetail deer have gone from 2 million to 20 million nation wide in about the last 60 years.

Cougars and bears are increasing in pop in this state.

That's what I thought Palmer. We have a ton of "Save the Wildlife" threads, but in all reality it's in great shape to begin with, overall.

How 'bout save the whales. Is their one of those?:cheers:

whales are part of the wildlife

[kevinb]

Yes,they are....I love them too.

[kuttkilla]

[Palmer]

I set up no hierarchy for plants or animals. It could be a whale or an ant, I respect it. I only kill it because its destroying my house, taking over my yard, intends to eat me, or I intend to eat it. But if it's a harvest that I'm after then only if it has a sustainable population. I leave endangered animals alone, obey the law, and try to be responsible. If someone wants to harvest (for consumption not a trophy or cultural reasons) a whale from a sustainable population then Its not even newsworthy to me. Most folks don't agree with that.

Something has got to die for me to live and planting a tree or cleaning up a little garbage is a good way to give back.