Winter-Summer Run Metal Head Identification

[Fish_Bait111397]

So on another thread, Gringo said he caught 10# native winter run,
what are the differences between a summer run steel, and a winter run steel?
OTHER THEN THE TIME OF YEAR THEY RUN.

[Amx]

Is one of them a 2 year cycle and the other a 4 year cycle?

edit: or is that salmon?

[Anglinarcher]

So on another thread, Gringo said he caught 10# native winter run,
what are the differences between a summer run steel, and a winter run steel?
OTHER THEN THE TIME OF YEAR THEY RUN.

Not a stupid question at all. In fact, the answer is really just what you said, the time of year they run or enter the river system. They both spawn in the spring, but one is in the system a lot longer then the other.

I guess you could say it is genetics. Summer run Steelhead continue to feed in the river for quite some time.

Both summer and winter run steel can return to the salt and then come back to the river the next year. The biggest Steel often have made the cycle a few times.

Now, I'm sure there is more to it then this, so I look forward to other answers as well.

[Fish_Bait111397]

Is one of them a 2 year cycle and the other a 4 year cycle?

edit: or is that salmon?

Pink Salmon run every odd year ('07,'09',and so on.)
Other salmon, run every year.

[Mike Carey]

So on another thread, Gringo said he caught 10# native winter run,
what are the differences between a summer run steel, and a winter run steel?
OTHER THEN THE TIME OF YEAR THEY RUN.

Not a stupid question at all. In fact, the answer is really just what you said, the time of year they run or enter the river system. They both spawn in the spring, but one is in the system a lot longer then the other.

I guess you could say it is genetics. Summer run Steelhead continue to feed in the river for quite some time.

Both summer and winter run steel can return to the salt and then come back to the river the next year. The biggest Steel often have made the cycle a few times.

Now, I'm sure there is more to it then this, so I look forward to other answers as well.

Correct, and it is possible to catch both summer runs and winter runs on the same river at the same time, if I'm not mistaken. Just to make things more interesting...

As to pink salmon, they do run every year, but for whatever reason the odd year runs are huge.

[Gringo Pescador]

Not a stupid question at all FB. I don't know if there are any tell-tale physical characteristics that could determine a dime-bright winter from a dime-bright summer. If anybody does, speak up I'd like to learn something too. Steelhead have their spawning seasons (Summer & Winter), but some will hang out longer than others (I've caught summers in November too). I deduced it was a winter because it was red, in other words still had it's spawning colors, where the summer runs are still bright.

[knotabassturd]

Can definitely catch both at same time. I did it a couple times on the Elochoman when fishing for winter runs. Think maybe December? Anyhow, definitely can happen. The Cow probably can too.

As far as diff between them not sure, guess I'll defer to others.

[natetreat]

Yea, the way you can tell is how far turned they are into their spawning colors. Also, summer runs tend to be more agile and aggressive, I've caught winter runs that made a couple half hearted runs and then rolled over on me, didn't even last five minutes, and I've hooked summer runs that on the same tackle took yards and yrads of line, charged at me, ran up and down three or for times, had to chase them from one hole to the next downstream, and the next one after that. They like the fresh water more than the winter runs is my guess.

Not a dumb question, but you'll know one when you see it. I've caught summer runs still in the river in december, they were just old a booty, but some of them get super pretty colors, and don't get moldy. Those are the fun ones.

Some rivers like the Cowlits get fish returning year round, the come and sit and wait for the spawn. Cowlits gets Early winters, A run, B run summer run, winter run. So the line really getgs drawn at how bright the fish is and what kind of mood it's in when you catch it.

A lot of the fun of summer runs is fishing light tackle in really clear water without needing neoprene, a parka, layers and gloves. YOu might need sunscreen.

[Fish_Bait111397]

Thanks For The Information Guys !

[Matt]

As far as physical characteristics go, winters tend to be more GREEN on the back, above the lateral line, and have a pink tint to the cheek as well as a more pronounced red band. When they are chrome they are a bit harder to discern, but I think summer look a bit different.

Summers are generally the distinct BLACK on WHITE hues when they enter the system.