Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:47 am

This is where I went to find part numbers. http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/J ... parts.html but for yours (the url) there isn't a power trim listed. You might have to by an add on part.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by G-Man » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:59 am

I don't see a power tilt/trim option as being available on the model number you provided. It looks like for that series of motor, having a "T" in the model number indicates that the unit is equipped with power tilt/trim as shown on the 115 and 135hp models. If it looks like it is stock on the engine, I'd bet that it is the same as what came on the 115 and 135hp models.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by MotoBoat » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:59 am

G-Man wrote:I'm betting that if you looked at the big motors, those over 100hp, that they would have it built in. Check with one of the on-line outboard parts dealers, like http://www.crowleymarine.com/parts.cfm, they usually have exploded views of all the models.
Thanks G-youdaman. Found trim and tilt, as well as tilt only kits were available through the factory. As a add (bolt on) on only option. Installed by dealer or boat owner, after leaving the factory. For my 85ESL75E, the trim and tilt kit for 73-77 model years used the same part number. Of course, this is no longer available as a new or aftermarket part. Used only or NOS.

There are jack plate options available, I would suppose?

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by G-Man » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:49 am

MotoBoat wrote:There are jack plate options available, I would suppose?
Yes, there are a few options to choose from. Prices will be in the $750 range for new power tilt/trim units for your outboard. When I was looking for one years ago, I had a difficult time finding a working used unit as most people didn't want to part with them. However, E-bay wasn't up and running at that time, so I'd check there for sure and see what is available. I don't think you'd get too much use out of a jack plate, unless you are trying to mount a long shaft motor on a short transom. The tilt/trim unit is what you want. It will allow you adjust your motor for hole shot and then once on plane, trim it out for maximum fuel economy and/or top end speed. It also helps a great deal to be able to adjust the trim to better handle chop/waves and eliminate porpoising.

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by MotoBoat » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:57 am

Toni wrote:This is where I went to find part numbers. http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/J ... parts.html but for yours (the url) there isn't a power trim listed. You might have to by an add on part.
From the main page:

http://www.crowleymarine.com/parts.cfm

Select "Accessories", then Johnson/Evinrude, then choose the model year in the "search accessories box", and six selectable categories pop up in the "group" box. Hidden inside the "electrical system" category, is the power trim and tilt, and tilt only models with hp ratings and lower unit length.

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by MotoBoat » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:02 pm

G-Man wrote:I don't see a power tilt/trim option as being available on the model number you provided. It looks like for that series of motor, having a "T" in the model number indicates that the unit is equipped with power tilt/trim as shown on the 115 and 135hp models. If it looks like it is stock on the engine, I'd bet that it is the same as what came on the 115 and 135hp models.
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/J ... parts.html
Found it here: Same part fits 70,75 long shaft, 85, 115, 135hp.

http://www.crowleymarine.com/johnson-ev ... /35869.cfm

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:07 pm

Steve and Trent worked on the motor tonight. Let there be power!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... BqDIrULjuc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Rosann G » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:14 pm

Woo Hoo Toni!!!!!! Thanks guys for helping Toni.

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Post by Toni » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:16 pm

Rosann G wrote:Woo Hoo Toni!!!!!! Thanks guys for helping Toni.
just put Trents video up and it is much better
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Augwen » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:46 am

Congrats!!! The tilt and trim works great!!

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Bodofish » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:52 am

Ok, Ok, all this teasing with the in the shop video...... Very glad to see her coming together, I have no doubt she'll be well sorted by the time you take her out and really use her. Now the videos..... well be looking for some great outdoor footage and some real haul'in @$$!!!! :cheers:
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by MotoBoat » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:14 am

Toni wrote:Steve and Trent worked on the motor tonight. Let there be power!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... BqDIrULjuc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Toni, any idea what repairs were needed to fix your PT&Tilt?

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:21 am

MotoBoat wrote:
Toni wrote:Steve and Trent worked on the motor tonight. Let there be power!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... BqDIrULjuc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Toni, any idea what repairs were needed to fix your PT&Tilt?
I bought a replacement power trim motor and pump. The leaky ram seemed to fix itself.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by kokanee_slayer » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:24 pm

Awesome on the Powertilt!!! Getting closer and closer to having the rig ready to fish!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOO

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:39 pm

I got roller bunks for the trailer too. But they still need to get put on.
I think Steve wants to redo the whole floor. He can't understand the way the stringers with the holes that are in them.
They didn't put resin all the way up on the stringers nor was the floor attached to the stringers.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by MotoBoat » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:12 pm

Toni wrote:I got roller bunks for the trailer too. But they still need to get put on.
I think Steve wants to redo the whole floor. He can't understand the way the stringers with the holes that are in them.
They didn't put resin all the way up on the stringers nor was the floor attached to the stringers.
Does the boat need a whole new floor? Are you saying: "Steve, does not know how the holes in the stringer's, drain water"?

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by G-Man » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:28 pm

Well the stringers should at least be coated in resin and as Motoboat mentioned, there should be a few holes/spaces where they meet the hull to allow water to drain. If you are going to take up the floor to inspect and coat the stringers, might as well replace it. Now would also be the time to add a built in fish box/hidden storage and/or a fuel tank.

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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:08 pm

G-Man wrote:Well the stringers should at least be coated in resin and as Motoboat mentioned, there should be a few holes/spaces where they meet the hull to allow water to drain. If you are going to take up the floor to inspect and coat the stringers, might as well replace it. Now would also be the time to add a built in fish box/hidden storage and/or a fuel tank.
WOW never thought of that.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by Toni » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:34 pm

MotoBoat wrote:
Toni wrote:I got roller bunks for the trailer too. But they still need to get put on.
I think Steve wants to redo the whole floor. He can't understand the way the stringers with the holes that are in them.
They didn't put resin all the way up on the stringers nor was the floor attached to the stringers.
Does the boat need a whole new floor? Are you saying: "Steve, does not know how the holes in the stringer's, drain water"?
NO. The holes in the stringers were not made to drain water. They are toward the top of the stringer. They were put in to provide air. The stringers only had resin 3/4 of the way up and the floor was not attached to them. This is the way the boat was designed. I was told it was not until 1975 that they suppose to be closed cells and watertight.

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Steve would like to take it out and put it back closed up and water tight. That little silver hooded thing at the front of the bow is a vent and it has about 3 inch wide tubing that goes down the inside of the bow seat. The holes in the stringer are about the same width.
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Re: Ol' Girl gets a new Ol' Girl

Post by hewesfisher » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:37 am

Toni the silver hood vent cover got clipped by forum photo settings, try attaching the photo instead of using the image option if your photos are not showing full size. I looked at the photo via photobucket image link and could see what you were talking about. [wink]
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