Nymphing vs. swinging

[rcthepirate]

And yes trout nymphers get a pass. Steelhead nymphets do not. It appears i stand in a not so lonely corner, thanks mallard. Welcome to the fold. We serve tugs and at daybreak.

How is nymphing for trout considered fly fishing and nymphing for steelhead not?

[Steelheadin360]

arent you fishing for trout when you are steelheadin? just a larger, sea-run type?

[Bodofish]

arent you fishing for trout when you are steelheadin? just a larger, sea-run type?

I'm not going to try and understand. There's an obvious disconnect going on in the mind of our new found elitist.

[natetreat]

[quote="Duncan Dharke right on Fishenfreak!!! Congrats on the new Boat! I am sure you are going to do allot more business with the new boat! You should get a trailer too, they make it way easier to get to the river![/quote]

When you're fly fishing and swinging that big fly through a hole, you start at the top and work your way down. Cast, step down, repeat. The etiquette in fly fishing dictates that if you are going to share a run with another fishermen, you will wait until there is space, and you will work the run from the top, taking turns. A low holer is the guy that ignores this and will show up and start fishing the "sweet spot" right below you with no regard for tradition or manners. It's really a dick move to do so, especially on a fly-only river on like the Stilly, where there is plenty of room for everyone. So for a self professed purist fly fishermen to be so proud of the fact that he's a jerk enough to make it his screen name is kind of indicative of his personality. I'm just saying.

[MotoBoat]

[quote="Duncan Dharke right on Fishenfreak!!! Congrats on the new Boat! I am sure you are going to do allot more business with the new boat! You should get a trailer too, they make it way easier to get to the river!

When you're fly fishing and swinging that big fly through a hole, you start at the top and work your way down. Cast, step down, repeat. The etiquette in fly fishing dictates that if you are going to share a run with another fishermen, you will wait until there is space, and you will work the run from the top, taking turns. A low holer is the guy that ignores this and will show up and start fishing the "sweet spot" right below you with no regard for tradition or manners. It's really a dick move to do so, especially on a fly-only river on like the Stilly, where there is plenty of room for everyone. So for a self professed purist fly fishermen to be so proud of the fact that he's a jerk enough to make it his screen name is kind of indicative of his personality. I'm just saying.[/quote]


Removing the below sentence, from the reply above.

So for a self professed purist fly fishermen to be so proud of the fact that he's a jerk enough to make it his screen name is kind of indicative of his personality. I'm just saying.

It is a safe bet, this person might not be added to the client list.

[Anglinarcher]

I love threads like this about fly fishing. They remind me of the long years I have been in and out of that sport.

When I was a very young whelp, the family would troll or bait fish during the morning and day, but dad would go out to the lake bay and "fly fish" near dark. We had few to no streams to fish, so if you cast a dry fly and dead drifted, like the Britts call fly fishing, you might catch a fish once in a blue moon. Wait, even the Britts cannot agree. The trout guys think fly fishing is dry fly only, but the Atlantic Salmon buys are wet fly/streamer guys only.

I still remember the complaints of the purist when I would use a clear water filled bubble with a long leader and a "fly" attached. I got to then go out with dad and "fly fish". I caught fish, but I also caught hell.

I progressed to "borrowing" dad's fly rod when he would take a nap. I got my back side whooped more then once, but when I finally got my first fly rod kit from Herter's, all of the whoopens were worth it.

We moved to southern Idaho and I fell into a crowd of expert fly fishermen. Only my youth prevented me from the abuse one gets when they find out you use gear and fly rods. OK, maybe the fact I could tie better flies and cast better then most of them by that time helped. So, for me, the line between what some call fly fishing and some call the rest was already pretty blurred.

They way I see it is that "fly fishing" is something defined by the State you are fishing in. Any other definition is useless. I know of one state that use to say that to be fly fishing you must use a fly line. OK, they did not say how long the leader was so in one case, with no back cast room, some of us would take large streamer flies, put a couple of split shot in front, use 60 feet of leader, and cast like it was a super short shooting head. It worked, but was it fly fishing? The state decided it was not so they changed the law to limit the length of the leader.

To me, swinging is not Nymphing. Swinging does not present any fly in any natural manner. To me, nymphing is presenting a wet fly, often called a nymph after the immature state of an insect, in a natural manner. Of course there are numerous methods to do that, including strike indicators, Lisering Lift, watching the end of your fly line, etc.

All I can say is that purist do themselves more harm then good. They also do more harm to any subject they support then to do good.

[natetreat]

Oh no. Now you're bring this thread back from the dead! It's such a heated topic, and I don't get it. To me, fishing as a "purist" is like setting out to work on your Ford with only one wrench in your toolbox. And that wrench is metric.

My story is a lot like yours, you work your way up not knowing any better. I was unaware of the distinctions between methods for a long time. I read magazines like Field and Stream, Bassmasters etc. while I was growing up that taught me to fly fish, gear fish and it was just another tool in my tackle box to catch fish.

[Steelheadin360]

Oh no. Its alive again...

[Bodofish]

Yipe, Yipe, Yipe, Yipe...................

[natetreat]

[Steelheadin360]

*bump* lol

[natetreat]

[Bodofish]

Nooooooooooooo make it stop........ The voices are coming back...........

[Steelheadin360]

How to stir the pot- Insert spoon, stir raipidly until desiered results are achived.

[Bodofish]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Excellent!!! Speaking of the fly, Sickbayer and I bought a drifter. I've been doing a bunch of work on it and she's ready for the water!!!! 14oz of new glass and bed liner to Tues or Wed she's gonna get wet so I'll be doing some swinging and I'll probably be the nymph..... I'm looking forward to trying a bit of real quiet, so used to the big engine noise.......

[Steelheadin360]

Congrats! There is that peacefulness that comes with fishing out of a drift boat thats for sure!

[Bodofish]

So many places you can't take a jet boat these days and my friends in the fly club only go where no motors allowed. Not to mention you can't drift in a float tube..... Sore b#tt for sure.

[Steelheadin360]

http://hatchmag.com/articles/nymphing-g ... ups/771684


"How to increase hookups while nymphing"

[natetreat]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Excellent!!! Speaking of the fly, Sickbayer and I bought a drifter. I've been doing a bunch of work on it and she's ready for the water!!!! 14oz of new glass and bed liner to Tues or Wed she's gonna get wet so I'll be doing some swinging and I'll probably be the nymph..... I'm looking forward to trying a bit of real quiet, so used to the big engine noise.......

Yea, Sickbayer was telling me about your boat. I had the chance to take him out on the Sultan to Monroe drift last week, so he'll know the terrain. We want pictures!

[Bodofish]

Maiden this afternoon!!! a little lake row last minute, pics for sure!!!!! River next!!!! Can't wait!!!!