well, the weather has finally turned cold so i tried my hand at silver one last time in search of some tigers. only boated one but had several strike and lost one at the boat(make strong hook sets). most of the day i was tossing cranks of all short but only the smaller ones seemed to produce anything. there were tons of other boaters on the water and the overall tone on the water was one of disapointment. good luck to all and remember.... set the hook like you mean it.