hit the lake with a friend and our 2 kids. got there around 6pm and decided to throw bobbers and worms into the pads to keep the kids busy with perch until the crappie bite started. they caught a dozen or so and then we started to troll...and troll.....and troll. not a bite, no fish rising, nothing. the conditions were seemingly perfect so either we were too late in the season or it hasn't gotten hot yet. i don't know which?