Tried 3 oz and 50 pulls which is alot of line out. Opted for the downrigger which I am not good at nor care for. Used large cowbell on downrigger for flasher and had small ford fender on main line with wedding ring. Clip was set 5 feet above ball and did 6 pulls before attaching line to clip. Had lots of hit just not many hookups. Downrigger set at 55 ft and then about 57 ft. Caught 3 fish measuring 14 inches and fat. Lost about 3 at the boat.