kingroobes
11/12/2013 9:03:00 PMncwflounderer
11/12/2013 9:25:00 PMMotoBoat
11/13/2013 8:35:00 AMAre you tipping your lure with Pike minnow? Are you certain your fishing within 5 ft of the bottom? Trolling or drifting slow? These are a common theme in guide reports for that lake.
Perhaps the bite is real subtle at the depths fished, and hard to detect? I have never fished for them. But trying to help in anyway I can think of.
Mcfisherson13
11/13/2013 12:56:00 PMI have fished for lakers and have used all kinds of methods to get down there to the bottom. One is of course down riggers and by far they are the easiest, you dont even need to have a depth counter, just watch your graph and every five to ten min. check your rod and depth, by bringing up your line and releasing it till it thumps the bottom. This way you know you are maintaining the 3-5 ft from bottom. If the bottom has came up then real some line up as the bottom comes up and then let line out to thump the bottom, and then bring it up 3-5 feet and repeat in 10 min. or so or if the bottom makes a change. As mentioned above maintaining that 3-5 ft off the bottom is key. So you dont have down riggers, not a problem.....Get yourself a metal clip that is used to clip on an extra line to your down rigger line so you can run multiple lines on one down rigger. Take off the plastic release clip for your fishing line, and then get a lead ball of 12 OZ or so, and fix it to the metal clip by heavy line 3-6" long, and then get your rod ready and let it out 75' or so and clip that weight on your line and send her down, and work the bottom as mentioned before every 10 min. or so. I Will take a picture and post it.
Also as mentioned above drop shotting.... If you do find a good ledge or a pile of fish on your graph, stop and send a big jig (3oz) with a treble stinger hook or drop shot rig that is a couple OZ's over and jig them. I have been very successful doing this and have targeted the lings that way too. My buddy has posted about the drop shot method and has since fine tuned it and done very well since he and I were up there summer before last when he kind of stumbled over the thought of drop shotting for them, although he is very good at the drop shot method and very tuned into it where I am not. He kicks my but every time. Point being at that depth you need to have a very skilled hand to feel them. If in doubt jerk....Jerks are free. I am not skilled in that area as he is, but it is a great method, if you find a pile of fish you are able to keep on them. Having said that, you need to know where some ledges are and where they stack up. You dont really want to just go out anywhere and start jigging or drop shotting. Jigging or drop shotting the hits are a wide range from the line feeling heavy or bogged down to a tick tick tick, or bump bump bump then heavy to slamola. As far as the hits go trolling, I have seen them in one day flat slam it and rip it out of the DR clip or just barley tap it and you wonder huh.....that just doesn't look right. So it just depends on the particular fish that particular day.
With that I hope it helps, and it is time for me to get after it again and replenish the stock pile in the freezer for laker soup come spring. If you see a Blue and Gray Lund sport angler dont be shy, come and say high! let me know if you have any further questions. Glad to help!
ncwflounderer
11/14/2013 7:26:00 AMMcfisherson; I am not clear on the technique you explain for fishing without a downrigger. You use a clip from a down rigger with a weight on it, then when you get a bite, you set the hook and leave the clip and weight on the bottom of the lake? or you clip it on, then remove once you get it reeled in far enough?
Mcfisherson13
11/14/2013 10:12:00 AMAs far as the bait, keep the skin on your bait to help keep it on the hook. cut strips off the fillet and the key I try to do is to try and make it look like a fish. A 2-3" narrow strip and I cut a fork in the tail just for grins. I will also use flat fish behind this weight system too, But I will thump the bottom and then bring it up 5-10' and work my depth until I get hit. The flat fish will dive some so that is why I bring it up more then when I use bait. Keep your baits moving and work it, you can just put it in there and drag it around, but you will have more success if you are working it. If I mark a fish on the bottom, I will go past it and when I think my bait has past the fish with no strike, I will thump the bottom and create some racket and hopefully generate a reaction strike if they are being fussy and not wanting to be racket. I will also make a turn if I see several fish in a general area and try to racket them into hitting if they are being fussy. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But I am always working my gear and trying to generate strikes. Hope this helps clear it up some.
Good Luck!
ncwflounderer
11/14/2013 12:08:00 PMMcfisherson13
11/14/2013 6:34:00 PMLater!
ncwflounderer
11/17/2013 1:19:00 PMMy plan now is to put about 75' of mono line on the end of the braid on my reel, hoping that the mono will be less likely to spin because the main line didn't spin up every time, but it was a problem that I had to remedy a couple time that morning. if that doesn't work I guess I will just have to pony up for a downrigger, or 2