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Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by fishcreekspinners » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:51 pm

I did these underwater hydrophone recordings of our spinners. If you've got a few minutes, it's kind of interesting to listen and compare them. The glass sounds different then the metal or plastic. The Colorado vs Swing vs Inline each have unique noise signatures. I can now understand why fish 'strike' at spinners.

Underwater hydrophone recordings of Fish Creek Spinner models

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Post by Anglinarcher » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:36 am

I caught this on your web site just as it was being placed on it and it didn't work quit yet. Thanks for getting it up, this should really open some eyes, or is that ears - LOL.

Let me know if you will do some "custom" recording for me. I have an underwater sound I want to hear?
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Post by gpc » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:49 am

This is very good coverage. Larry Dalhberg was doing some recording on musky lures last Friday and it really got some wheels turning. Its nice for me to have a more accurate reference as to the fishing I do more often. Those blades arnt too different from the blades used for salmon or walleye and I do a lot of trout fishing. Thanks man

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Post by datsun » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:49 pm

this is really educational, thanks :)

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Post by Rich McVey » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:37 pm

gpc wrote:This is very good coverage. Larry Dalhberg was doing some recording on musky lures last Friday and it really got some wheels turning. Its nice for me to have a more accurate reference as to the fishing I do more often. Those blades arnt too different from the blades used for salmon or walleye and I do a lot of trout fishing. Thanks man
The Whopper Popper, I caught that show. Good information. I was amazed at how the sound of the lure was mostly blotted out by the bass boat that just launched.

Anglinarcher wrote:Let me know if you will do some "custom" recording for me. I have an underwater sound I want to hear?
:scratch: Im afraid to ask.
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Post by davidwat1 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:47 pm

Very cool! It's amazing how much sound and vibration those little inlines can put out! The quality of your product looks great too! Nice addition to your website!
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Post by fishcreekspinners » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:33 am

Thanks for the comments and visits to the website. These recordings were done a couple weeks ago in Vancouver BC by contactmicrophones.com. I've asked Liane to record the new spinner jigs next but I'd didn't record the Musky spinners (Perch Minnow or larger 1/2oz double bladed Armadillo). Those meed to get into the queue as well. Guessing the big Armadillo will sound like the Steelhead version, same components, just larger.

Based on the pattern matching that this set of recordings provided, I've got more to learn about spinner components, placement, and the resulting noise output and catch ratio's.

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RE:Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by Rich McVey » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:14 am

Have you started to corolate the effectiveness of the different sounds the lures make?

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RE:Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by fishcreekspinners » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:36 am

I've gotten the most catch feedback history on the glass armadillos (fish pictures and other angler comments and personal observation). The glass definately sounds muted with less of the chatter then heard on the metal ones. Stay tuned though.

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Post by Anglinarcher » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:17 pm

RaMcVey wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:Let me know if you will do some "custom" recording for me. I have an underwater sound I want to hear?
:scratch: I'm afraid to ask.
Don't be. Some many years ago in a state far far away I brought a few Walleye home in the live well instead of the cooler. I was in the military and I had duty that night so I drop ed the fish in the kids wading pool and left them there for the night.

The next day my kids thought it was so cool to have the fish in the pool that they asked me to leave them there, which I did for a few weeks.

We would toss a few worms or minnows into the pool to feed them, but they would never eat them in front of us. Then one day my wife stumbled on a sound/action that made the walleye charge our fingers and take the food right in front of us. For years I have wondered how to imitate that sound, and also wondered if this was a fluke. Note, they kept doing this for about a week before I "released them" - LOL.
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RE:Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by Rich McVey » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:23 am

That sounds prety interesting.

Ive been watching my tank fish and trying to understand whats going on in their heads when feeding them. Especially the ones that will eat live fish and that are picky. Movement seems to play a huge roll in how a couple of them react, I wish I could hear in the tank too.

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RE:Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by natenez » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:50 pm

I wonder how the noise of those armadillos compares with the CAGI attractor...

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RE:Underwater hydrophone recordings of Spinners

Post by fishcreekspinners » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:48 pm

I sent the question to Contact Microphones for comment. I read the sine wave lines with vertical as decibal volume, and horizonal compression as the Hz frequency (I might be totally off on that) stay tuned.

With my method, bigger black areas closer to center mean higher frequency. Looking at the link and picture, at first glance, it looks like a couple of hybrid buzz propellers on the wire. Maybe there's more to it's science than I see flattened on the web page. The portability deal (use on your lures) is interesting. I made some ultralite fly fishing attractors that were loosely similar once.

The component comparison seems like it should be similar to the Fireant's double propeller noise. Most all the spinner noise is coming from friction and component rotation on the stainless steel wire. The armadillo blades rotate on the clevis, but the blade contacts and turns the metal discs as well. For the glass armadillo version, I know the discs turn the faceted glass beads and that increases reflection. The rotation of multiple lighter disc components sounds different then a blade contacting a bigger more stationary brass body. e.g AngleIron sound different then Armadillo or FireAnt.

I expected they would sound different and the recordings substantiated what common sense told me, which is interesting and helps move the bar. It 'might' mean something and be worth understanding. We make them because its exciting and fun to do. They're US made alternatives, that are available if you want to give them a try. No hard sell.

My common sense tells me fish hear things we can hear and more. Just find some laying in a clear pool and make some noise. They could be reacting to different frequencies all buried in things we hear, but a disruption I hear seems to be heard by them.

Creating 'attractive' noise vs 'aggressive' noise is still the mystery. Some of the prior posts were headed that way,
Fun Stuff!

Another future endeavor is to better explore the UV side of underwater components. I think its more important in deeper water, but still worth getting a better understanding of. The 'What fish see' book didnt talk about glass, I need to buy a black light and go try some fun stuff!

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